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The WBC to Protest Natasha Richardson's Funeral

I'm so angry, I'm numb. I don't feel anything. It's like that scene from Equilibrium where Christian Bale suddenly goes all calm. I think if I was physically in the presence of these people, I would hurt them. And enjoy it.

I think that means what they're doing is working. I truly believe the real goal of this is to infect others with hatred, and it bothers me that it's working on me. Because I really do hate them to the point I could hurt them right now.

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I truly believe the real goal of this is to infect others with hatred

...y'know? I think you're right.

I think it's the only logical explanation. Fred Phelps is so angry that he needs to make people angry, too. It feeds something in him when people hit them or attack them or whatever. I saw him in a documentary, and when he saw people get angry at him, he looked really happy. It's like hatred is the disease and he's patient zero. The gay thing is just a convenient button to push.

It makes me angry that he could make me hate him, even for a minute, because when I hate him, he wins.

(I've had moment and I feel rational again, but it takes so much more effort than just hating him would.)

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It's weird circular religious logic. THE WORLD WILL HATE YOU FOR YOUR RIGHTEOUS BELIEFS. Nevermind if what you do is horrible or hate-mongering. Which means that being upset with them just reinforces their persecution complex.

I....should never be allowed near Fred Phelps. I have enough of a problem wanting to argue with the people who keep trying to sell us door-to-door Jesus.

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::sigh::

I just don't have words to describe how sad this makes me. It doesn't make me angry, they're not worth that it just makes me weary and sad. I'm sure Liam will deal with it with dignity. I just wish he didn't have to.

I can usually manage to be sad, too, but this time, it was definitely anger. I know that the anger isn't useful or the best thing to be feeling, but there you go. I know the family will manage.

And, I'm still glad we have freedom of speech in this country, even though it means putting up with these... people. I am close to being reasonable about again, I think. I know that, if they manage to get the proper permits that counter-protesters will deal with them. (I'll be surprised if they don't end up getting hurt somehow.) But he gives a bad name to religious folk, and Americans, and even lawyers.

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They are like internet trolls IMO.

That is absolutely right. They feed off the negative attention, like trolls. It's always been a point of honor for me to say I don't hate them, because I know in my heart that is exactly what they want. But for a minute there, I really did. I think I've got over it, but it was a near thing. ;)

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I get frustrated at people like that but then I figure that's what they want and I sure don't need to go walking around feeling mad! But yeah I know what you mean. ;)

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Well, at least now I've come full circle to laughing at them again. I like laughing at them -- it feels so much better than murderous rage. :)

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There you go, laugh at the pathetic fools!

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Hee! Just so.

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That's... for real? I thought it was a spoof. O_O

Nah. They're taking the piss.

It's not a joke. These people do that. The press release came from the WBC website, I just didn't want to link to them. They made the same announcement about protesting Heather Ledger's funeral, but I don't know if they actually did it.

But these guys DO protest funerals of soldiers and such, a lot. They really believe what they say. It really is for real. I wish it wasn't.

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Then it's beyond contemptable.

And I'm trying not to giggle at Ms Ledger... ;)

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Woops. My bad. darned typos. LOL. But yeah, they do this all the time. One fellow just successfully sued them for a huge settlement for defamation.

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I hope they get sued and sued and sued. I can think of nothing better than that they lose all their money for their behaviors. Just dealing with lawsuites, win or lose, takes money.

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Yes, but several of the core family members are lawyers. They had a reputation for suing people for sport (and profit!) around Topeka (where the church is) long before the real craziness started.

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Isn't it generally said that lawyers are just spawn of the devil?

Makes sense. They're crazies; they're lawyers.

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They're like the Topeka branch of Wolfram & Hart. They did manage to disbar the patriarch, but several of his children still practice law.

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And several of the grandchildren are studying it.

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Yup -- It's the only way they survive.

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There's a passage in the Bible about how it's wrong to sue people or something and lawyers are bad...I only remember it because I learned about it in Sunday school as a kid, and my parents are lawyers.

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LOL! Well, I hardly think all lawyers are evil, but I guess you could make a case. *snerk*

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I grew up terrified for my parents' souls. *LOL* Because supposedly they were the agents of evil or something.

Oh, man....one more thing to write down for therapy.

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aw, honey! *pat,pat*

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Louis Theroux did a BBC programme on them a couple of years ago called 'The Most Hated Family in America'. It was scary viewing. You can usually find it on On Demand services. It's worth a watch.

They are 100% real and 1,000,000% crazy.

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I'd watch but I know I'd only get upset. That's their aim, I presume.

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That is their aim, exactly, I think. I'm a bit miffed at myself for letting them get to me last week.

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Wow. That is so full of ridiculous hate. Seriously ridiculous hate. I know these people are serious, they *think* those things are serious crimes, but to people not consumed by stupidity and hate it's on that border-line between it looking so made-up and utterly comic that you want to laugh at it and terror because people really believe in stuff that enormously dumb. I'd feel sorry for them, to be that full of poppycock and brain-rot, except they scare the dickins out of me. They're teaching their kids that sort of nastiness.

That they choose to go to people's funerals and display their dumbness, ignorance, and hate is yet another level of what-the-fuckedness. It goes beyond my capabilities to even conceive of the hideousness in their heads that they would do such things. How can they think they're good people? (Yes, rhetorical question. There is no answer to that.)

They've set it up so that when people get angry at them, it confirms and reaffirms their belief that they are right, that they are the only ones willing to speak the truth to a wicked nation, or some such.

It IS completely ridiculous, which is good, because now I've come back around to laughing at them. But, yeah. They are this one family of crazies. Most of them are attorneys, too, which makes them really hard to get anything to stick to them legally.

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These are the people who keep so many others away from Christianity. Fail fail fail fail.

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Exactly why I don't think proselytizing is their goal. They just want people to hate -- gays, the Phelpses themselves, I don't think they care overmuch which. It's kind of mind-boggling.

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I need to find that Family Guy clip...

http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2007/03/the_rapture.html

All of these guys. This is how I see them.

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Hahahahahahah-snort-hahahahaha!

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Now, let's ALL hate that rock!

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I looked up the verses they're "summarizing" in their "insightful" picket signs using the NRSV...

Uh....

I don't know what translation they're using, but by my reading, they're both taking the verses out of context and pulling stuff out of thin air.

Of course they are! That's part of the crazy. ;) There are actually some very insightful rebuttals of the crazy out there. Maybe I'll post some when I have a moment.

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The last one is especially special.

And yeah, I'll probably do the same...sit down with my NRSV, put things in context, and type it up for my own amusement.

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You do that, too? LOL! I knew I couldn't be the only one, but...Still, I should have known. ;)

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*LOL* To be fair, I didn't really get into the habit until I took a course called Women in Christianity...Loyola made you take 9 hours of religion courses. The instructor was really big on analyzing things in context. So now I do that.

That, and read lots of books about radical religious groups and cults. Uhm, and Phelps' sermons sound frighteningly similar to a few of the guys I've been studying...

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Well, I've been doing the whole "make notes and write an essay" thing occasionally since my tweens. *blush* Not always on religion, but just anytime something really bugged me, I'd write out my thoughts on the subject and why something I'd heard or read made no sense. Heh.

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I like writing essays. And analyzing books. And movies. And...random things. :) I like to pick tough points of view and defend them to see if I can.

....except in this case. Well, okay, I guess some would consider my take on Christianity tough to defend.

But I can't wrap my mind around Phelps. I've JUST managed to begin wrapping my mind around polygamy after reading so much about it.

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With Phelps, what made sense of it to me was looking at pathology more than religion. He's a sick man, but clever.

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(That's so weird that you said that about Equilibrium 'cause I just saw it for the first time last night and I really liked that part. Carry on.)

It's an under-rated movie, I think. It certainly gets that moment right, anyway. ;)

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Ok, now I've read the link. That's just....*boggles*

I don't think they actually did it -- I imagine they couldn't get the proper permits. Which means that the press release was just to make folks angry and I'm miffed at myself that I let it work so well. *sigh*

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